The myth of revolution

05.05.2006

Lee Harris has an interesting post at TCS Daily: " Why Isn't Socialism Dead?" It starts from a discussion about Bolivia's recent hydrocarbons nationalization, then turns to a philosophical discussion on political myths (or "imaginaries"), Georges Sorel, and the idea of revolution as an ends rather than as means.

The myths around revolution are powerful stuff. Really powerful stuff. Just last night, working at Rocket Star, I ran across a patron w/ an anti-capitalism t-shirt. Of course, the t-shirt was well-made, bought from an "anti-capitalism" merchandizing catalog, no doubt. Oh, the ironies! Revolution has become nothing more than another marketing brand, complete w/ its own Mickey Mouse icon (Che) & catch-phrase slogans that could pass for advertising jingles. But it's always funny to see someone w/ an anti-capitalism t-shirt come into a hipster café & order a $4.25 smoothie drink before flipping open their PowerBooks & plugging in their iPods.

Posted by Miguel at 01:02 PM

Comments

You're reference to myth is timely. I was debating an issue on Steph's weblog recently having to do w/this issue. I may have been wrong; I wasn't familiar w/this theme, not being a political scientist.

thanks for the referred article. Ignites a few light bulbs.

Posted by: tom at May 5, 2006 01:31 PM

"Imaginary" is not really synonymous with "myth," as I think this book makes clear.

Posted by: Wade at June 13, 2006 04:34 PM

Wade:

I wish you'd gone into more detail (merely citing a book gives me little to go by). Yes, "imaginary" is not purely equal w/ "myth" (otherwise, why have two words?). But "myths" are an essential part of "imaginaries" in the sense that a variety of collective myths make up part of what is a social imaginary. For example, the "Bolivian imaginary" contains a collection of different myths (e.g. the Chaco War). So. Synonymous? Perhaps not. But certainly closely related.

Posted by: mcentellas [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 13, 2006 06:21 PM

I think myths are narrative by definition--or, at least, much more obviously so. Also, "myth" is pejorative in a sense that "imaginary" isn't. It suggests some kind of illusion, one that a society might as well dispense with, whereas imaginaries are supposed to be basic to any society.

Posted by: Wade at June 13, 2006 08:16 PM

I think you're using only a limited definition of "myth" (that is, as some commonly shared, but "false" belief). In the sense that I'm using (and the sense that Anderson & other nationalism scholars use it), it tends to instead mean a commonly shared story -- particularly an origin story.

Again, in that sense, "myth" is part of an collective imaginary -- which contains one or more myths, as well as other commonly shared values, ideas, etc.

Posted by: mcentellas at June 13, 2006 09:13 PM

I understand that political theorists mean "myth" in a more neutral sense. The point I was more interested in making, and which you've already covered by now, was that imaginaries as a category are not limited to myths--the idea of human rights, for example, or of the rational economic actor, belong to some other kind of imaginary.

As for that link, I was just pointing out some interesting (and fairly new) reading material on the subject.

Posted by: Wade at June 14, 2006 12:57 AM